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# NATO and other western leaders are increasingly pessimistic about the Afghanistan mission and bitter disagreements about burden-sharing within the alliance can lead to crisis within NATO.
# With gaining unpopularity about Afghan mission in Europe, it is expected that NATO alliance won’t hold it for much longer.
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# Success in Afghanistan is dependent upon fair shouldering of the troop burden and commitment that NATO cannot afford to shed after staying this long in war.
# NATO’s war in Afghan has not achieved its objective and stepping back now could see Taliban back in power posing a global security threat again.
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Sunit
Feb 8 2008
kolkata,
India
At the moment it seems like a split is on the cards but in the long-term a united NATO is in the interests of western Europe, new Eastern Bloc members and the United States of America. A failure in Afghanistan would mean further Talibanisation of Central Asia and the Middle East and there is every chance Al Qaeda with the help of the Taliban in Afghanistan would bring the war to the streets of Europe. The current tensions between America and some of its European allies are due to diplomatic mishandling of the Afghan issue and if this leads to a split in NATO, Russia would be the biggest winner and the west would never let a resurgent Moscow to hijack the division.
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(Global Perspectives)
I believe that NATO is about much more than the military campaigns it is running. Its split is a very remote possibility, at par to say aliens invading the earth. It was primarily aimed to counter Soviet influence and with increasing assertion of Russians, it might again be called upon to fulfill its original purpose. NATO has faced some dissidence within its ranks before, say 1958 for instance, but it scraped through. Afghan fiasco would be another such instance. No way NATO will split.
(Global Perspectives)
After the Cold War ended and the Warsaw Pact nullified, NATO was believed to have run out of its objectives. But NATO stayed on. The new role of course is much different from the earlier role, that is to counter balance the Soviet might. Now, the focus has shifted to tackling rogue countries such as Iran and of course terrorism. What we are seeing is a protracted war against terror and NATO simply cannot leave it at this stage little successes notwithstanding.
We must understand that the NATO forces have not been defeated in Afghanistan just as the Soviet occupying forces were. The NATO casualties are much lesser and successes are also significant at times. Leaving Afghanistan or for that matter an US withdrawal from Iraq is going to be the biggest gift to the terrorists and the world can’t afford to do it. Then there would be more Afghanistans and more Iraqs.
We must understand that the NATO forces have not been defeated in Afghanistan just as the Soviet occupying forces were. The NATO casualties are much lesser and successes are also significant at times. Leaving Afghanistan or for that matter an US withdrawal from Iraq is going to be the biggest gift to the terrorists and the world can’t afford to do it. Then there would be more Afghanistans and more Iraqs.
(Global Perspectives)
i tend to agree with jonty. politicians have to show results and different nato countries are getting wary of this war against terror started by george bush. while britain and other countries might be supportive, germany, france etc. may not be comfortable. but nato will remain united.
(Local Perspectives)
YES NATO DOES NOT HAVE ANY COMMON POLICY AND WAR ON AFGHANISTAN IS HAVING DIFFERENT EFFECTS ON DIFFERENT NATIONS THAT MAKE NATO
(Global Perspectives)
YES NATO DOES NOT HAVE ANY COMMON POLICY AND WAR ON AFGHANISTAN IS HAVING DIFFERENT EFFECTS ON DIFFERENT NATIONS THAT MAKE NATO
(Global Perspectives)
Nato is not going to split unless USA wants it to happen. So far, US is using Nato to float its personal agenda in Europe like missile shields and taking east European countries under its fault depsite Russian opposition. A cold war like situation suits USA fine.
(Global Perspectives)
Yes! The world is realizing that such unified military organization has become obsolete. The EU wants to have its own army, US is blocking it. Time will come only the US and the East Europeans will form Nato. Rest will say bye bye. Of course Britain would be there! LOL
(Global Perspectives)
so that russia and china can have a toast? fat chance! uncle sam is the master of all ceremonies or for that matter all cocktail parties even if russia and china are playing hosts. what a fantastic thought that nato will split. the usa is not sleeping under cozy quilts oblivious to what is happening on the european alliance front.
(Global Perspectives)
Soviets couldn't do it, how come Osama Bin Laden and Taliban can do it? Are yiou nuts? You guys are kidding.
(Global Perspectives)
SPLIT NATO OR SPLIT AFGHANISTAN? I AM NOT SURE. IT IS DANGEROUS.
(Global Perspectives)
Of Course, NATO is on the way of splitting on the issue of Afghanistan war. Its tough for NATO members to patch over divisions on the question of Afghan war because of willingness of some other members to send their troops in the battle.
(Global Perspectives)
France is in favor of reinforcements and sending diplomats to Afghanistan and Romania, Poland and Norway have signalled they could help more.
(Local Perspectives)
This is not in the hands of NATO forces to control Afghanistan now. Violence has risen sharply in past two years in the country. it has come under Taliban's rule once again. Afghanistan is another failed state in Indian subcontinent after Pakistan.
(Global Perspectives)
Germany would send about 200 soldiers in northern Afghanistan in NATO Quick Reaction Force. The country would not order to send any of its 3,500 troops in the southern part of the country.
(Global Perspectives)
US is also fearful over the afghan war. It has warned that the pressures of the war in Afghanistan has started damaging the very structure of the NATO alliance on this issue.
(Global Perspectives)
The troops of US, UK, Canada, Holland and Australia are in south Afghanistan. Some fighting has occurred in this region and these countries have demanded troops from other countries to keep the situation under control.
(Local Perspectives)
Australia is not a NATO member but it has sent 1000 army personnel including special forces and engineers to help in reconstruction work in the south Afghanistan.
(Global Perspectives)
Canada has also threatened to withdraw the 2,500 troops from Afghanistan this year if NATO did not send further reinforcements and extra equipment to Afghanistan.
(Global Perspectives)
What is NATO???? Isn't it a group of Imperialist nations seaching for makerst in third world countries??
(Global Perspectives)
Hamid Karzai has also opposed the British interference in Helmand and rejected UK, US candidate for the post of UN representative in Afghanistan. He has done it because of the rising local pressure on him.
(Global Perspectives)
I am waiting for the split in NATO and the US defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq.
(Global Perspectives)
NATO has been lost its significance. NATO members are pseudo-sovereign countries dancing on the tume playing bu their super boss - George Bush and his party.
(Global Perspectives)
WE ARE WITNESSING A GREAT PHILOSOPHICAL DIVIDE WITH COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE AND GERMANY ON ONE SIDE AND UK AND NEW NATO ENTRANTS ON OTHER SIDE ALONG WITH THE US. THERE IS DISSENT AMONG MEMBER NATIONS HOW THE ORGANISATION IS CONDUCTING ITSELF AND ITS CURRENT AND FUTURE POSSIBLE ROLES. WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF COMMON OBJECTIVES IT CANNOT BE DENIED THAT THE RIFT IS GROWING WIDER. WE MAY SEE THE END OF NATO IN THE COMING TWO DECADES.
AS FAR AS UNFINISHED AFGHAN WAR IS CONCERNED IT NOT GOING TO BE A MAJOR REASON FOR A SPLIT. HOWEVER, NO COUNTRY WANTS TO FIGHT A NEVER ENDING WAR AND AFGHANISTAN IS PROVING TO BE A DIFFICULT ASSIGNMENT FOR NATO. TO SAY THAT ONLY THE SEEMINGLY UNENDING WAR WILL SPLIT NATO IS A BIT FAR-FETCHED.
AS FAR AS UNFINISHED AFGHAN WAR IS CONCERNED IT NOT GOING TO BE A MAJOR REASON FOR A SPLIT. HOWEVER, NO COUNTRY WANTS TO FIGHT A NEVER ENDING WAR AND AFGHANISTAN IS PROVING TO BE A DIFFICULT ASSIGNMENT FOR NATO. TO SAY THAT ONLY THE SEEMINGLY UNENDING WAR WILL SPLIT NATO IS A BIT FAR-FETCHED.
(Local Perspectives)
IF NATO split who will save EUrope? Europe wont let that happen.........
(Global Perspectives)
this isn't nato's war.. this isnt abt saving europe.. nato has shot itself on the foot.. this is america's war.. nato being dragged in unnecessarily.. it gave america a gift.. nato's world role is long finished..
(Global Perspectives)
Russians hope that it does. Any military adventure in Afghanistan ended in disaster. First Britain was badly defeated, then Soviet Union lost its superpower status after Afghanistan occupation. It is now the turn of NATO first and then USA to taste defeat. NATO will not survive. It is good for Russia too because NATO is behaving suspiciously on Russia's western borders and making things uneasy.
(Global Perspectives)
The NATo is an extended US tool. With all the member countries so heavily dependent upon the USA. There were talks about an European Army. USA thwarted the attempt. Now with NATO being dragged into an unpopular and long drawn out war, there is bound to be dissent. When opposition to the US comes from within NATO, it will collapse as US will not support it. I guess Afghanistan will mean the end of NATO.
(Global Perspectives)
whether it will split or won't would primarily depend upon 4 countries - USA, UK, France, Germany. afghan war may just drive a wedge between the pro-war and anti-war countries.
(Global Perspectives)
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